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美版知乎:东京还是上海,你更喜欢哪个城市

Ben Collier, works at Lloyds Banking Group (2013-present)

I’ve been to Tokyo twice and Shanghai just once, spending a fair amount of time in each. For me, Tokyo takes the win for the following reasons:

  1. The Japanese people are typically very welcoming and friendly. I have had great experiences with Chinese people, but found the warmth and friendliness of Japanese people to be almost overwhelming.
  2. The History and culture. Again, this is a close one, but I think Tokyo has done a better job of preserving it’s past both in terms of physical buildings and within the contemporary arts scene. Shanghai museum is fantastic, as is the colonial waterfront, but there is very little that remains of historic Shanghai. Everything felt very modern, but in areas certain a little soulless.
  3. The food. I love the thousands of tiny Japanese restaurants dotting the backstreets; you get a real feel of being somewhere unique and, obviously, it tastes great. Shanghai has much less of a food culture.
  4. The infrastructure. Tokyo’s metro and transport system is slightly more modern and functional and the traffic seems to flow much better. Shanghai has the feeling of growing too big too quickly.
  5. The look/feel of each city. Tokyo is genuinely beautiful and retains a distinctly Japanese feel everywhere you go. The streets are immaculately clean, mostly well-planned, and there is a lot of open space, parks etc. I spent hours per day just walking around Tokyo and always discovered something new and interesting. Shanghai has beautiful areas and some nice parkland, but it does not come close to that of Tokyo; it felt quite Western to me, comparatively dirty and had the pervading feeling of runaway urbanisation.

我去过东京两次,只去过上海一次,每次都呆了不少时间。对我来说,东京获胜的原因如下:

1.日本人非常热情友好。我和中国人有过很多接触,但我发现日本人的热情和友好几乎让我无法抗拒。

2.历史和文化。两者在这方面也很相近,但我认为东京在保存历史的方面做得更好,无论是在物理建筑方面还是在当代艺术领域。上海博物馆非常棒,殖民地时期的海滨也是如此,但上海的历史遗迹却少之又少。一切都让人觉得很现代,但在某些方面却没有灵魂。

3.食物。我喜欢遍布小街巷的无数日本小餐馆;你会有一种很特别的感觉,很明显,食物的味道很好。上海的饮食文化少得多。

4.基础设施。东京的地铁和交通系统更加现代化,功能更加完善,交通状况也更好。上海有一种发展太快、规模太大的感觉。

5.城市的外观/感觉。东京真的很美,无论你走到哪里,都能感受到独特的日本风情。街道干净整洁,大部分规划良好,有很多开放空间,公园等。我每天都会花上几个小时在东京四处走动,总能发现一些新奇有趣的东西。上海有美丽的地方和美丽的公园,但比不上东京;在我看来,这里很西方化,较为脏乱,弥漫着城市化失控的感觉。

 

Delong Tsway, Been to China and Japan.

I am Chinese so I am biased for Shanghai however I have been to both cities and will try to give an objective analysis as best I can. In terms of architecture I like Shanghai better partly because there’s a lot of european buildings and so the city gives me a romantic feel similar to Paris. There’s a reason why Shanghai is called the Paris of the East. Shanghai I think has more water to it although I could be wrong about this. But at least it feels that way. Rivers and water gardens permeate the city. It creates a very dreamy romantic feel for me which I like.

However in terms of futuristic technology I’ll have to give this one to Tokyo. They’re really good at that stuff and it’s no use denying it. They have some traditional Buddhist stuff to but it doesn’t seem like most people visiting the city care about it. I’m really impressed with the technology of Tokyo and also how greenery is infused with the city.

In terms of culture I’m obviously biased towards Chinese. Japanese culture in my honest opinion is just super weird. It’s too much to go into this post but Japanese culture I don’t think it’s healthy. I’m willing to admit China is not that much better in this regard. But it’s still not Japanese level weirdness. In my opinion comparing China to Japan is like comparing an ogre to a snake. They’re both bad but at least one of them is not a snake. (And I’m talking about japan)

So all in all I choose Shanghai but I’ll acknowledge that Tokyo is a really cool city regardless of how weird Japanese people are.

我是中国人,所以我对上海更偏心一些,但是我去过这两个城市,我会尽量给出一个客观的分析。在建筑方面,我更喜欢上海,部分原因是那里有很多欧洲建筑,所以这座城市给我一种类似巴黎的浪漫感觉。上海被称为东方巴黎是有原因的。我认为上海有更多的水,尽管我可能是错的。但至少感觉是这样的。河流和花园遍布全城。这为我创造了一个非常梦幻的浪漫感觉,我喜欢。

然而,就未来科技而言,东京肯定更出色。他们真的很擅长这些东西,否认是没有用的。他们有一些传统的佛教的东西,但似乎大多数来这个城市的人并不关心它。东京的科技给我留下了深刻的印象,绿色植物也融入了这座城市。

在文化方面,我明显偏心中国人。日本文化在我看来实在是太奇怪了。这篇文章说得太多了,但我认为日本文化不健康。我承认中国在这方面并没有好到哪里去。但远没有日本的怪异。

总之,我把票投给上海,但我承认东京是一个很酷的城市,不管日本人有多古怪。

 

Jasmine Wang, lives in Shanghai (2009-present)

Personally, I’d pick Tokyo. While i do like anime, that isnt why I’d pick Japan. I currently live in Shanghai, so this may caused a baised opinon bc I haven’t truly lived there(I stayed there for a month). I’d pick tokyo over Shanghai because of how clean it is and how polite people are. The pm2.5/AQI in Shanghia can get really bad—one time it literally was off the charts. Architecturally, Tokyo has much prettier buildings. In my personal opinion, China in general has lost their architectural touch.

However, that is not to say Shanghai isn’t great as well. Honestly speaking, in Shanghai, you can find any type of food and there is always something to do. Also, there are so many forms of entertainment in Shanghai, such as jump360, interactive games, lazer tag, the list goes on. Another benefit of Shanghai, or China in general, is Taobao.

就我个人而言,我会选择东京。虽然我喜欢日本动漫,但这并不是我选择日本的原因。我现在住在上海,所以这可能会引起人们的质疑,因为我并没有真正住在那里(我在那里呆了一个月)。我会选择东京而不是上海,是因为那里非常干净,人们非常有礼貌。上海的pm2.5/AQI指数非常糟糕—有一次真的爆表了。从建筑结构上看,东京的建筑要漂亮得多。在我个人看来,中国总体上已经失去了自己独特的建筑风格。

但我并不是说上海不好。说实话,在上海,你可以找到各种美食,总是有事情可做。此外,在上海有很多娱乐形式,如jump360,互动游戏,激光枪战,等等。上海或中国的另一个好处是淘宝。

 

Xu Lucy, studied at China

Given your comment to the question I suggest you to change the question to one of the followings

Why do you like Shanghai? (I don’t)

Which part of Shanghai’s culture do you like to most? (Been there a few times but don’t know the place enough to answer the question. It has better infrastructure than most Chinese cities but I don’t think that’s part of its culture. )

What are some competitive advantages of Shanghai comparing to Tokyo? (Higher GDP growth rate, maybe)

考虑到你对这个问题的看法,我建议你把这个问题改为下列问题之一

你为什么喜欢上海?(我不喜欢)

你最喜欢上海文化的哪一方面?(去过几次,但对上海不太熟悉,回答不了这个问题。它的基础设施比大多数中国城市都要好,但我不认为这是它文化的一部分。)

与东京相比,上海有哪些优势?(可能GDP增长率更高)

 

Yuki Fujinari, Half japanese/half german.

As a half-Japanese, I might be biased.

Ofcourse I would choose to rather live in Tokyo. Tokyo is basically the first city that comes to anyones mind, when you say “big city” or even “Mega City”.

But ofcourse as I know Tokyo as well as my pocket, I have a fascination for Shanghai.

Its bigger in size and in buildings and looks futuristic. I definitely would say Shanghai is superior to Tokyo, but I think it depends on the deciding factors you choose

作为一个有一半日本血统的人,我可能会有偏见。

当然,我更喜欢住在东京。当你说“大城市”甚至“超级城市”时,东京基本上会是第一个出现在人们脑海中的城市。

但当然,正如我对东京的了解太深了,我对上海有一种迷恋。

它的城市体量更大,建筑更大,看起来很有未来感。我当然会说上海比东京好,但我认为这取决于你选择的决定因素是什么。

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