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Can Narendra Modi make India a superpower?

莫迪能让印度成为超级大国吗?

 Quora读者的评论:

Vinodh Gopal, Trying to be just a Piece of Life

You remember those times when whole India worshiped Sachin Tendulkar and he was absolutely the best, an incredible sportsman, highly skilled, passionate about India and put India on the map....

Now rewind and think about those times, whether India was on the top of ODI rankings, Test rankings, did we win the World Cup, hell did we at least get into Top three performing teams in the world... None of it happened...

It took many different players slowly forming part of the team, handling different aspects of the game, development of true & genuine international performers to change our cricketing history.

In fact, it took so many years for even the Indian fans to stop worshiping Tendulkar and start worshiping brand "INDIA" (How many people turned their TV off once Sachin got out, when did it change?)

Only after there were handful of performers we managed to get to the finals once and eventually a decade later won the World Cup, not with a single star performer but a whole team of fairly good performers.

你还记得整个印度都崇拜萨钦·坦杜尔卡的时候吧,他绝对是最棒的,他是一个不可思议的运动员,技术高超,对印度充满激情,让印度名扬天下……

现在回过头来想想那段时间,印度有没有排名领先、有没有赢得世界杯、有没有进入世界前三支球队……什么都没发生……

许多不同的球员慢慢地组成了一支球队,应付不同的比赛,培养出真正的国际球员,改变了我们的板球历史。

事实上,即使是印度球迷也花了很多年才不再崇拜坦杜尔卡,开始崇拜“印度”这个概念。

在拥有少数几位出色的球员之后,我们才有机会进入决赛,并最终在10年后赢得了世界杯冠军。

The same is true for the country as well. Narendra Modi's job will be to inspire people to start participating in the country's development, that's all he can do. Unless or otherwise, many other people with same level of integrity & passion crop up in the ministry, in the states, in the local municipality, we will just be a country who made too much noise with no real substance.

We tend to forget that we are in a Democracy, we still think like a Feudalistic society hoping that there will be some Hero who will magically appear and make miracles happen (Too much of movies!!!).

when we do and when we start seeing questions on quora such as 'What I need to do to make India progress?' will be the day India will truly start it's journey.

Short answer: No... Narendra Modi cannot take India to the top but he can inspire us to get off our asses and do something.

印度这个国家也是如此。纳伦德拉·莫迪的工作是鼓励人们开始参与国家的发展,这是他所能做的。除非许多同样正直和热情的人突然出现在政府部门,在各邦,在地方自治市,否则我们就只是一个聒噪不实干的国家。

我们总是忘记我们是一个国家,我们仍然像封建社会一样思考,期盼一些英雄奇迹般地出现,让奇迹发生(电影看多了!!)

等到我们开始在QUORA上看到诸如“我需要做什么才能让印度进步?”的问题时,就是印度真正开始崛起的那一天。

我的回答很简短:不…纳伦德拉•莫迪无法带领印度登上顶峰,但他可以激励我们振作起来,做点什么。

 

Pundrik Shah, lives in India

Originally Answered: Would India become a superpower, if Modi were to rule for the next 20 years?

NO.

India cannot become a superpower even if Mr. Modi were to be PM for the next 40 years until we - the people of India - do not understand and accept that he alone can not change India.

He (being the PM of our nation) can pick up a broom and show us that there is nothing shameful in taking a broom in our hand to keep our motherland clean.

Shouldn't we help him at least by NOT littering around?

He can show his dedication towards the development of India by working for 18 hours in a day!

Can we not dedicate a small amount of time in helping the underprivileged?

He can show us that he's trying to bring back black money by bringing back Rs. 3770 crore.

Shouldn't we stop stashing away black money (income not declared for tax purposes)

His cabinet ministers (Sushma Swaraj & Suresh Prabhu - helping people using twitter) can show us the power of digital India.

Shouldn't we try to utilize this power like Mr. Imran Khan did?

Mr. Imran Khan has created 42 apps on various education subjects, these are being used by 2.5 million people, he could have easily generated money from it, but he chose to donate it to the Ministry of HRD. Saying he wants the student of India to profit.

Not NaMo, no leader can change India if we - Indians - don't accept our roles in the development.

译文来源:三泰虎  http://www.santaihu.com/47529.html 译者:Joyceliu

最初的问题是:如果莫迪执政20年,印度会成为超级大国吗?

不。

印度不可能成为超级大国,即使莫迪在未来40年里一直担任印度总理,除非我们—印度人民—理解并接受,莫迪一个人无法改变印度。

他(作为我们国家的总理)可以拿起一把扫帚,告诉我们:拿起扫帚保持祖国的整洁,并没有什么可耻。

那么我们至少可以不乱丢垃圾,来帮帮他吧!

他可以每天工作18个小时,这就是他对印度发展的奉献精神!

那么我们难道就不能花一点时间来帮帮那些贫困的人吗?

他可以向我们表示他追回海外37亿7千万卢比黑钱的决心。

那么难道我们不应该停止藏匿黑钱吗?

他的内阁部长们(Sushma Swaraj & Suresh Prabhu——通过推特帮助人民),向我们展示数字印度的力量。

那么我们不应该像伊姆兰·汗先生那样好好利用这种能力吗?

伊姆兰·汗先生创建了42个不同教育主题的应用程序,多达250万人使用这些应用程序,他本可以轻轻松松低发大财,但他选择将其捐给人力资源部。他说他希望印度学生能从中受益。

如果我们—印度人—没有扮演好我们在发展中的角色,任何领导人能无法改变印度。

 

Prasanth Valsan K, Not a Bhakt, not a Congress supporter

The Chinese started their reform in 1976. They have been the fastest growing major economy for decades. Even now, they are not a superpower. It is going to take India a very long time to become an economic power.

If by superpower, if you mean like an unchallenged military power like the US, then no. Neither China nor India is going to replace the US as the pre-eminent global military power. The reasons like in geography:

1 The US has geography in its favor. It has access to the Pacific and the Atlantic and through them, access to the biggest economies of Asia (China, Japan, South Korea etc), access to Australia, economies of Western Europe and resource rich Africa.

中国于1976年开始改革。几十年来,中国一直是增长最快的主要经济体。即使是现在,他们也还算不上超级大国。印度要成为经济强国还需要很长时间。

如果你说的超级大国是指像美国这样无可匹敌的军事力量,那我的回答是不能。中国和印度都不会取代美国成为全球军事强国。原因有地理方面的:

1.美国拥有有利的地理位置。它依临太平洋和大西洋,通过这两个大洋能连接亚洲最大的经济体(中国、日本、韩国等),也能通往澳大利亚、西欧经济体和资源丰富的非洲。

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2 The US has weak peripheral neighbors. The US is the only nuclear weapon state in the North and South American continents. None of its neighbours have territorial disputes with the US. Contrast this with India and China. India has to deal with Pakistan and China, two nuclear armed hostile nations. China has to deal with India, Japan, unstable nuclear armed North Korea, and Russia.The US can easily exploit these rivalries, sell arms to those countries and even establish bases in those countries. No country in the Western hemisphere is going to have a Chinese military base. The Soviets tried to put missiles in Cuba in the 60s, it almost led to WW3.

3 The home front of the US is secure, both internally and externally.... India has to deal with Kashmir, Punjab, NE movements and the Maoist insurgency. The more you are bogged down with internal problems, the less time and resources you have for external power projection.

So, unless the US does something incredibly stupid or unless an asteroid from outer space destroys the US, no country is going to replace it as the preeminent military power in the foreseeable future. India and China can become economic powers and prosperous nations, provided we do not kill each other first.

2.美国周边有弱小的邻国。美国是北美和南美大陆上唯一拥有核武器的国家。邻国与美国都不存在领土争端。与此形成对比的是印度和中国。印度必须与巴基斯坦和中国这两个拥有核武器的敌对国家打交道。中国必须与印度、日本、拥有核武器的不稳定的朝鲜和俄罗斯打交道。中国再西半球不可能拥有军事基地。苏联在60年代试图在古巴部署导弹,这几乎导致了第三次世界大战。

3.美国的国内和国外都是安全的。印度必须对付克什米尔、旁遮普邦、东北邦运动和毛派叛乱。你越是被内部问题困住,你在国际上展现实力的时间和资源就越少。

所以,除非美国做一些极其愚蠢的事情,或者来自外太空的小行星摧毁美国,否则在可预见的未来,没有一个国家能取代美国成为军事强国。只要我们不先互相残杀,印度和中国就能成为经济强国和繁荣国家。

 

Rajagopalan K Suryanarayan, Political analyst

Originally Answered: Is Narendra Modi transforming India into a superpower nation?

最初的问题是:纳伦德拉莫迪正在把印度变成一个超级大国吗?

1.Indian Military has undergone a major transformation under Modi. Within a short period of three years he has equipped our defence with equipment of latest equipment. He has also given a go ahead to manufacture equipments of cutting edge technology by foreign corporate bigwigs. He has given freehand for the army to deal with the enemies in LOC. He also has given them access to talk to him at any time regarding matters concerning the defence of the nation. He has raised the morale of our services. His singular act of conducting Surgical Strike which can be rated as par excellence has made the army and the nation proud. The recent stand offs with China on Doklam, and his firm stand has infused a sense of admiration for Modi’s leadership. Even China is afraid of proceeding further against India. If he is elected again in 2019, he will make India self sufficient in defence production and make our forces the best in the world.

2.Foreign Policies of Modi government is one of the best. His neighbors first policy by developing cordial relations with our neighborhood has resulted in good to cordial relations with Burma, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Bhutan, Nepal, Sri Lanka. Though the relationship with Pakistan and China is not so cordial. Modi has established very good friendly relationships with all major and minor powers both economically and militarily. The diplomacy of India is at its peak now.

1.在莫迪的领导下,印度军队经历了重大变革。在短短的三年时间里,他为我们的国防装备了最新的武器。他还批准了外国企业巨头生产尖端技术设备的计划。他放手让军队对付实际控制线上的敌人。他还允许他们在任何时候同他讨论有关保卫国家的问题。他提高了我们军队的士气。他进行外科手术式打击的行动非常优秀,这使军队和国家感到自豪。最近与中国在洞朗问题上的对峙,以及他坚定的立场,都让人民对莫迪领导能力产生了钦佩之情。甚至中国也怕对印度采取进一步行动。如果他在2019年能再次当选,他将使印度国防自力更生,并使我们的军队成为世界上最优秀的军队。

2.莫迪政府的外交政策是最好的政策之一。他的邻国优先政策能发展同我们邻国的友好关系,我们跟缅甸、孟加拉国、阿富汗、不丹、尼泊尔、斯里兰卡等国建立了友好关系。莫迪在经济和军事上与所有大国和小国建立了非常好的友好关系。印度的外交现在正处于鼎盛时期。

3.Economically India is in a sweet spot. Over the last three by ears of his vtenure, Modi has given a GDP growth which of 7.3% in 2015, 7.6% in 2016 and 7.4% in 2017 which is highest for any major economy. The stock exchange is showing growth with sensex and nifty registering a new peak. The inflation is lowest hovering around 4.5%. Export is showing positive growth in the last quarter of last year. Indian currency is hardening against US dollar. India recieved Foreign Direct Investments of $63 billion in 2015-16, and $60.01 billion in 2016-17 which Nissan highest for any country including China and US. All economic indicators are showing positive results which clearly elicits that India is on a right track. Also to be noted is his inclusive economy by bringing 28 crore poor by opening bank accounts for them.

4.Infrastructure development has attained greater speed under Modi government. Road construction which was six Kms per day has picked up speed to 23 Kms., per day. The Railways has undergone a sea change in its working, increased speed of the trains, it's infrastructure with great modification in the style of the coaches, the bio toilets, solar powered trains, cleanliness of the stations, trains etc. The smart city concept which is picking speed and acceptance among the public are some of the infrastructural programs not Modi.

5.Narendra Modi is definitely transforming the nation for the better. All the activities are going on a fast b feverish pitch. Once these are realized India is sure to become a power b to recon with.

3.经济上,印度正处于一个最佳状态。在莫迪任期的最后三年里,GDP增长速度分别是2015年的7.3%、2016年的7.6%和2017年的7.4%,是所有主要经济体中增长率最高的。随着sensex指数和nifty指数再创新高,证券交易所正在显示增长势头。通货膨胀率最低,在4.5%左右徘徊。去年最后一个季度出口呈现出正增长。印度货币对美元正在走强。2015年至2016年,印度获得了630亿美元的外国直接投资,2016年至2017年获得了601亿美元的外国直接投资,这是日产汽车在包括中国和美国在内的所有国家的最高投资。所有经济指标都显示出积极的结果,这显然表明印度正走在正确的道路上。同样值得注意的是,他的包容性经济还为2.8亿贫困人口开设了银行账户。

4.莫迪政府领导下,基础设施建设加快发展。道路建设速度已从每天6公里增加到23公里。铁路的运行方式、速度、基础设施等方面都发生了翻天覆地的变化,客车、生物厕所、太阳能火车、车站清洁度、火车等方面都有了很大的改进。

5.纳伦德拉莫迪无疑正在让印度变得更好。所有的经济活动都在快速地进行着。只要这些都实现了,印度一定会成为经济强国。

 

Kaushal Piruka, Independent Writer at Self-Employment (2013-present)

Yes, he definitely can.

I can support my answer by telling how his team has already started.

Piyush Goyal, Minister of State with Independent Charge for Power, Coal, New, and Renewable Energy

He recently launched the Grameen Vidyutikaran Android app, which lets anyone track the progress in the field of rural electrification in India through a real-time dashboard.

The dashboard presents the total number of un-electrified villages, and details the status of the un-electrified villages and the work in progress – whether they’ve been surveyed, or if work has yet to start.

Can you imagine a minister saying hold us accountable?

Smriti Irani, Human Resource Development minister

In line with the Modi government’s Digital India initiative, the HRD minister has launched a number of mobile apps and web-based platforms allowing students to access study material online, and parents to keep a track of the performance and attendance of their children. She has also launched initiatives like website ‘E-pathshala’ and Saransh.

是的,他肯定能。

负责电力、煤炭、新能源和可再生能源的国务部长皮尤什·戈亚尔最近推出了Grameen Vidyutikaran Android应用程序,任何人都可以通过实时仪表盘跟踪印度农村电气化领域的进展。

仪表板显示了未通电村庄的总数,并详细显示了未通电村庄的状况和正在进行的工作。

人力资源开发部长Smriti Irani

根据莫迪政府的“数字印度”计划,人力资源和社会发展部部长发布了一系列移动应用程序和基于网络的平台,让学生在线学习,让家长跟进孩子的表现和出勤率。她还推出了“E-pathshala”和“Saransh”等网站。

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General (Retd) V K Singh, Minister of State for External Affairs

Like a true soldier, the minister successfully led a rescue operation for the evacuation of stranded Indians in Yemen.

"I salute General V.K. Singh. Can you imagine? Bombardment is going on in Yemen 24-hours; everybody is out to kill each other and we, after talking to so many countries, manage to stop this mayhem for two hours to evacuate as many Indians as possible. It is not a small task,” PM Modi had said.

India’s successful evacuation of its citizens from war-torn Yemen also received global accolades.

Following it, around 26 countries including the US, France, Germany, Egypt, Singapore, Iraq and Lebanon, sought the Indian government’s assistance in the rescue efforts.

There were also reports that suggest Mr Singh was in Indonesia right before the arrest of Chhota Rajan. If reports are to be believed, he has played a role in the arrest.

印度外交国务部长辛格将军

像一个真正的士兵一样,这位部长成功地领导了一场撤离困在也门的印度人的救援行动。

莫迪总理称:“我向辛格将军致敬。你能想象吗?也门正在经历24小时的轰炸;每个人都在互相残杀,在与这么多国家交谈之后,我们设法让这场骚乱暂停2个小时,尽可能多地撤离印度人。这可不是一项小任务。”

印度成功地将其公民从饱受战争蹂躏的也门撤离,受到了全球的赞扬。

随后,包括美国、法国、德国、埃及、新加坡、伊拉克和黎巴嫩在内的26个国家向印度政府寻求援助。

还有报道称,恰塔•拉詹被捕之前,辛格就在印尼。如果报道属实,他在这次逮捕中也发挥了作用。

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Sushma Swaraj, Minister of External Affairs

She played a key role in bringing back Geeta, the deaf-mute Indian woman living in Pakistan after accidentally crossing the border over a decade ago, to India.

外交部长斯瓦拉杰

她在将住在巴基斯坦的聋哑印度妇女吉塔带回印度的过程中发挥了关键作用。

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