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reddit网友: 怎么get到中国的“关系学”

Posted byu/aXiaobai 19 hours ago
I gather foreigners are always fucked over in situations vs a chinese person in China but is it possible for a foreigner with the right connections somehow with the police etc to override this? I guess im partly just asking how guanxi works in a sense.. anyone know?

相比在中国的中国人,我认为外国人在多种情况下总是被不公平对待,但是,外国人能否与警察等人员结下良好关系以改变这一现状?我想在某种程度上我只是想知道“关系”是如何运作的.....有谁知道吗?

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TheDark1 10 points·18 hours ago
Not really. If you have family ties you have their guanxi. If you're useful you have guanxi. If your use expires the guanxi does too.
It's the same for Chinese people too though. Look what happens when people at the very top are purged. All those they enriched disappear into the ether.

实际上不行。如果你和中国人有家庭关系,你就可以籍此获得他们的“关系”。如果你对别人有用,你也会获得“关系”。当你的作用消失的时候,“关系”也随之消失。然而,这情况同样适用于中国人自己,看看那些身居高位的人被免职的时候,所有那些通过他发家致富的人全都跑得无影无踪了。

JayTeeLaramie 7 points·18 hours ago
One of the only consistently positive responses to this question has come from /u/Hautamaki over the years and he just re-told in the past couple of days how his relationship with the son of the police chief gave him advantage.

近年以来对此提问少有的正面回复之一来自于这位豪塔麦基(Hautamaki),而他在前几天再次讲述了他与警长儿子的关系是怎么给他带来好处的。

dcrm Great Britain 13 points·18 hours ago
Generally no. I actually agree with /u/TheDark1 on this. The only two ways to have guanxi are;

基本不可能。实际上我赞同网友TheDark1的回复。只有两种方式能够获得“关系”:

1.To be useful. Most foreigners are not useful they don't have a large circle of friends in China nor do a lot of them have top positions or public positions of power. If you have a lot of money or a high position you will have limited guanxi.

1.对别人有用。大多数外国人对中国人来讲没用处,这些老外在中国朋友圈不大,他们的朋友里也没有身居高位的人士或是有权势的公务员。如果你很有钱或者社会地位很高,你会获得有限的“关系”。

2.To be family with someone who has guanxi. Friends doesn't cut it. If there is any trouble you'll be thrown under the bus instantly by a non-relative. Doesn't matter how much you think you are friends with them (you could be friends for over a decade!). They are not going to help if you it gives them trouble.

2.成为某些有“关系”的人的家人。朋友不算的。如果你碰到了麻烦,那些和你没有家庭关系的人只会马上把你抛弃掉。不管你自己认为和他们的友情有多深厚(包括那些已经做了十几年的朋友!)。你要是给他们带来麻烦,他们是不会帮助你的。

Family is different if they don't help you their other family members will berate them and look down on them. They NEED to help you if you are family. By family I mean married. If it's a boyfriend/girlfriend situation it'll depend on if their family like you and how much of a serious marriage prospect they view you as.

家人就不同了,如果他们不帮你的忙,其他的家人就会斥责并鄙视他们。如果你是他们的家人,他们就必须要帮助你。我指的家人关系是指婚姻带来的关系。如果只是男女朋友,就要看情况了,要看他们家里有多喜欢你,或者他们认为你们结婚的可能性有多大。

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