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reddit: 中国教育中是否有如英国教育那样的阶级固化及分层吗?

techolah 於 1 天前 * 發表
In the UK there are private and public schools. The private schools typically have a more rigorous curriculum and the teachers are better qualified.

英国有分私立和公立学校。私立学校通常有更严格的课程设置且师资力量更好。

It's said that this enforces a class system in the UK, that the rich go to private, then go to better Universities, then send their children to private etc etc. ...

据说这使英国(无形中)实施起了一种阶级制度,即富人去私人学校,然后去更好的大学,然后再把他们的孩子送到私人学校等等......

There's certainly some truth to this, but I don't really want to get into a "how to make everything equal for everyone" discussion.

这其中当然有一些是事实,但我并不想开启“如何让所有人都平等”的讨论。

What I'm interested is if people think that there's a greater chance for mobility within Chinese education. It's often said that the Gaokao is a leveller, that no matter whether a person is poor or rich if they do well on the Gaokao they can elevate themselves.

我感兴趣的是,人们是否认为中国教育可以给更多人机会。人们经常说,高考是公平的,不管一个人他是贫穷还是富有,如果在高考上表现良好,他们就改变自身的命运。

The issue that I have with this is that the same thing can be said for A Levels really. If someone is from a poor district in the UK and they do well at their A Levels then they can get into a decent University (sometimes the averages from their school location are taken into account and if they've done significantly better than other then this is factored in). Though I think a UK family having the attitude of elevation through education is probably less likely than a Chinese family.

对此我的问题是我觉得A Levels((英国大学入学考试的甲级考试)也有相同的效果。如果某人来自英国的一个贫穷地区,但是他们在Alevel表现良好,那么他们可以进入一个体面的大学(有时候他们所在学校的平均值会被考虑在内,且如果他们做得比其他人好得多,那么这个因素会被考虑在内)。尽管我认为一个英国家庭在教育方面的态度上可能不如中国家庭。

So the crux of this question is whether there's a greater chance for Chinese people to "climb the ladder" with the education system that they have. I don't think that comparisons between a farmer in the middle of no-where and someone rich in Shanghai are so meaningful here, even though I understand they're both in the same country and it could be an example of class. Instead - if there are examples of greater differences within the same city, that might be more suitable. For example - one could easily find these kind of examples for a city like London, or most cities in England.
Thanks

所以这个问题的关键在于中国人是否有更大的机会,借助这种教育制度来“提升自己的阶层”。我并不认为,把一个中部省的农民和上海的有钱人放在一起比有意义。尽管我明白他们都在同一个国家,而这可以是个说明阶层的例子。相反——如果是在同一个城市内存在较大差异的例子,那可能会更合适。例如,人们在像伦敦这样的城市或英格兰大部分城市中很容易找到这类例子。谢谢(浏览)。

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–]zhaoshuyang 5 指標 1 天前
In China the competition on academic performance starts from PRIMARY SCHOOL! Before Gaokao, you have to work well on Xuequfang, Xiaoshengchu and Zhongkao! (Good primary school area house, primary->middle exam, middle->high school exam)

在中国,学术表现的竞争从小学就开始了!高考之前,你必须在学区房好好准备小升初考试和中考!(学区房指在优秀小学附近的房产——小升初是指升上初中的考试——中考是指升上高中的考试)

[–]techolah[S] 1 指標 1 天前
yeah, cheers. I'm mainly wondering about whether or not people consider there to be greater mobility provided by the Chinese educational system than the UK's.

是的,赞同。我主要想知道人们是否认为中国教育系统提供的流动性比英国教育提供的流动性更大。

[–]chikarico 1 指標 1 天前
Chinese people have long been proud of our unique ladder climbing examination system, namely keju originated in feudal period. But in reality,children are prevented from good school because of hukou and house price.

长期以来,中国人都为自己独特的选拔考试制度而自豪,即起源于封建时代的科举制度。但实际上,由于户口和房价的阻碍,孩子们上不了好学校。

[–]Minos_King 2 指標 1 天前
Don’t the wealthy Chinese just send their kids to those same private schools in the UK (And US and Switzerland)?

中国的有钱人不都是把他们的孩子送去读英国(美国和瑞士那里)的私立学校吗?

[–]doodouu 1 指標 1 天前
Some of them choose to send their kids to international schools in china where there are less competitions, then send their kids abroad for college.

他们中的一些人选择将孩子送到竞争较少的中国国际学校,然后将孩子送到国外上大学。

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